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Steel 1065 vs 85

Steel · grade comparison

Steel 1065 and 85 are both steel grades. 85 is the stronger of the two: yield strength 1,080 MPa (157 ksi) against 380 MPa (55.1 ksi) for 1065, about 184% more; tensile strength follows at 1,230 MPa (178 ksi) vs 670 MPa (97.2 ksi). In exchange, 1065 is the more ductile: elongation 12% versus 8% for 85, and 85 is harder (375 HB vs 190 HB). 1065 runs hotter in service (350°C vs 250°C continuous). On the shop floor, 1065 machines more easily (fair vs poor), 1065 welds better (25 vs 15 out of 100), and 85 sits in a lower cost tier (budget, $) than 1065 (standard, $$).

1065Choose it when the part is bent, formed or impact-loaded, or when the part sees heat.

85Choose it when strength drives the design, or when cost is the deciding factor.

1065 vs 85: properties

106585

Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Elastic (Young's) Modulus

205 GPa29.7 Msi
207 GPa30 Msi

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

670 MPa97.2 ksi
1,230 MPa178 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

380 MPa55.1 ksi
1,080 MPa157 ksi

Elongation at Break

12%
8%

Reduction in Area

30%
33%

Compressive Strength

380 MPa55.1 ksi
1,150 MPa167 ksi

Shear Strength

430 MPa62.4 ksi
740 MPa107 ksi

Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit)

300 MPa43.5 ksi
580 MPa84.1 ksi

Fracture Toughness (K_IC)

45 MPa·√m41 ksi·√in
40 MPa·√m36.4 ksi·√in

Hardness, Brinell

190 HB
375 HB

Hardness, Rockwell B

92 HRB
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Hardness, Rockwell C

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40 HRC

Hardness, Vickers

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392 HV

Same in both: Shear Modulus 80 GPa11.6 Msi · Bulk Modulus 160 GPa23.2 Msi · Poisson's Ratio 0.29 · Charpy V-Notch Impact (RT) 10 J7.4 ft·lbf

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Density

7.85 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³
7.81 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³

Melting Point (Solidus)

1,425°C2,597 °F
1,400°C2,552 °F

Same in both: Liquidus Temperature 1,480°C2,696 °F

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Thermal Conductivity

49 W/m·K28.3 BTU/hr·ft·°F
46 W/m·K26.6 BTU/hr·ft·°F

Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C)

11.3 µm/m·K6.3 µin/in·°F
11.5 µm/m·K6.4 µin/in·°F

Latent Heat of Fusion

247 J/g106 BTU/lb
250 J/g107 BTU/lb

Max Service Temperature (continuous)

350°C662 °F
250°C482 °F

Min Service Temperature

-20°C-4 °F
-40°C-40 °F

Same in both: Specific Heat Capacity 470 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Same in both: Electrical Conductivity 9.5 % IACS · Electrical Resistivity 1.8×10⁻⁷ Ω·m7.09 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE)

-0.61 V
-0.6 V

Same in both: Corrosion Resistance 10 / 100

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability

45 / 100
30 / 100

Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %)

57%
30%

Weldability

25 / 100
15 / 100

Formability (cold)

30 / 100
12 / 100

Castability

45 / 100
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Brazeability / Solderability

55 / 100
45 / 100

Polishability

65 / 100
70 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Embodied Energy (primary production)

25 MJ/kg10,748 BTU/lb
30 MJ/kg12,898 BTU/lb

Embodied Carbon (primary production)

1.9 kg CO₂/kg
2.2 kg CO₂/kg

Embodied Water

30 L/kg3.6 gal/lb
45 L/kg5.4 gal/lb

Typical Recycled Content

30%
25%

Common Calculations

Ratios derived from the values above.

Specific Strength (UTS / density)

85 kN·m/kg
157 kN·m/kg

Specific Stiffness (E / density)

26.1 MN·m/kg
26.5 MN·m/kg

Modulus of Resilience

352 kJ/m³
2,817 kJ/m³

Thermal Diffusivity

13.3 mm²/s
12.5 mm²/s

Thermal Shock Resistance Index

14
24

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every steel grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

2005001,0002,0007.588.5Density (g/cm³)Yield strength (MPa) — log scale106585

Manufacturing and finishing

Capability106585
CNC machiningYes—
Sheet metalYes—
Default conditionHR—
Relative cost$$ Standard$ Budget
Min. machined wall0.8 mm—
Best machined surfaceRa 1.6 µm—
AlCrNYes—
AlTiNYes—
Black OxideYes—
CVD Al2O3Yes—
CVD TiCNYes—
CVD TiNYes—
CerakoteYes—
Chrome PlatingYes—
CrNYes—
DLCYes—
E-CoatingYes—
HVOF CoatingYes—
Hot-Dip GalvanizingYes—
MoS2Yes—
Multilayer CVDYes—
Nickel PlatingYes—
PTFE CoatingYes—
PaintingYes—

They share 9 finishes: Copper Plating, Electroless Nickel (EN), Epoxy Coating, Gold Plating, Hard Chrome Plating, Manganese Phosphate, Plasma Spray, Silver Plating, Zinc Phosphate.

1065 vs 85 — frequently asked

Is 85 stronger than 1065?

Yes. 85 has a typical yield strength of 1,080 MPa (157 ksi) against 380 MPa (55.1 ksi) for 1065 — about 184% more. Tensile strength is 1,230 MPa (178 ksi) vs 670 MPa (97.2 ksi).

Which is cheaper, 1065 or 85?

85 is the lower-cost material: it sits in the budget tier ($) while 1065 is standard ($$). Part price depends far more on geometry, tolerance and quantity than on raw stock — upload a CAD file for a live quote.

Which is easier to machine, 1065 or 85?

1065. Its machinability rates fair (45/100) against poor (30/100) for 85; for welding the order is 1065 first (poor, 25/100) then 85 (poor, 15/100).

Ready to make it?

Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in 1065 and 85 side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.