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Steel 1J85 vs 4-79 Mo-Permalloy

Steel · grade comparison

Steel 1J85 and 4-79 Mo-Permalloy are both steel grades. 1J85 is the stronger of the two: tensile strength 600 MPa (87 ksi) against 550 MPa (79.8 ksi) for 4-79 Mo-Permalloy, about 9% more. 4-79 Mo-Permalloy is harder — 130 HV against 120 HV for 1J85 — which matters for wear surfaces and threads. 4-79 Mo-Permalloy runs hotter in service (400°C vs 200°C continuous). On the shop floor, 4-79 Mo-Permalloy welds better (good vs fair).

1J85Choose it when strength drives the design.

4-79 Mo-PermalloyChoose it when surface hardness matters, or when the part sees heat.

1J85 vs 4-79 Mo-Permalloy: properties

1J854-79 Mo-Permalloy

Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Elastic (Young's) Modulus

200 GPa29 Msi
210 GPa30.5 Msi

Shear Modulus

76 GPa11 Msi
80 GPa11.6 Msi

Poisson's Ratio

0.31
0.3

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

600 MPa87 ksi
550 MPa79.8 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

250 MPa36.3 ksi
260 MPa37.7 ksi

Reduction in Area

60%
70%

Compressive Strength

250 MPa36.3 ksi
—

Shear Strength

400 MPa58 ksi
—

Charpy V-Notch Impact (RT)

120 J88.5 ft·lbf
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Hardness, Brinell

115 HB
120 HB

Hardness, Rockwell B

65 HRB
72 HRB

Hardness, Vickers

120 HV
130 HV

Same in both: Bulk Modulus 175 GPa25.4 Msi · Elongation at Break 40% · Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit) 250 MPa36.3 ksi

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Density

8.75 g/cm³0.32 lb/in³
8.74 g/cm³0.32 lb/in³

Same in both: Melting Point (Solidus) 1,400°C2,552 °F · Liquidus Temperature 1,450°C2,642 °F

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Latent Heat of Fusion

290 J/g125 BTU/lb
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Max Service Temperature (continuous)

200°C392 °F
400°C752 °F

Same in both: Thermal Conductivity 19 W/m·K11 BTU/hr·ft·°F · Specific Heat Capacity 460 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F · Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C) 12.5 µm/m·K6.9 µin/in·°F · Min Service Temperature -196°C-321 °F

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Same in both: Electrical Conductivity 3.1 % IACS · Electrical Resistivity 5.5×10⁻⁷ Ω·m21.7 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE)

-0.2 V
-0.3 V

Corrosion Resistance

55 / 100
45 / 100

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %)

25%
30%

Weldability

50 / 100
60 / 100

Brazeability / Solderability

60 / 100
70 / 100

Castability

—
40 / 100

Same in both: Machinability 30 / 100 · Formability (cold) 85 / 100 · Polishability 70 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Embodied Energy (primary production)

160 MJ/kg68,788 BTU/lb
140 MJ/kg60,189 BTU/lb

Embodied Carbon (primary production)

11 kg CO₂/kg
10 kg CO₂/kg

Embodied Water

250 L/kg30 gal/lb
200 L/kg24 gal/lb

Typical Recycled Content

25%
20%

Common Calculations

Ratios derived from the values above.

Specific Strength (UTS / density)

69 kN·m/kg
63 kN·m/kg

Specific Stiffness (E / density)

22.9 MN·m/kg
24 MN·m/kg

Modulus of Resilience

156 kJ/m³
161 kJ/m³

Thermal Shock Resistance Index

5
4

Same in both: Thermal Diffusivity 4.7 mm²/s

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every steel grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

2005001,0002,0007.588.5Density (g/cm³)Yield strength (MPa) — log scale4-79 Mo-Permalloy1J85

Manufacturing and finishing

Capability1J854-79 Mo-Permalloy
Default condition——
Relative cost$$$$ High$$$$ High
Min. machined wall——
Best machined surface——

Both take the same 9 finishes: Copper Plating, Electroless Nickel (EN), Epoxy Coating, Gold Plating, Hard Chrome Plating, Manganese Phosphate, Plasma Spray, Silver Plating, Zinc Phosphate.

1J85 vs 4-79 Mo-Permalloy — frequently asked

Is 1J85 stronger than 4-79 Mo-Permalloy?

Yes. 1J85 has a typical tensile strength of 600 MPa (87 ksi) against 550 MPa (79.8 ksi) for 4-79 Mo-Permalloy — about 9% more.

Which is cheaper, 1J85 or 4-79 Mo-Permalloy?

Both sit in the same relative cost tier ($$$$, high); the part price will be decided by machining time, tolerance and quantity rather than by the material.

Which welds better, 1J85 or 4-79 Mo-Permalloy?

4-79 Mo-Permalloy. Its weldability rates good (60/100) against fair (50/100) for 1J85.

Ready to make it?

Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in 1J85 and 4-79 Mo-Permalloy side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.