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Steel 17Mn4 vs Q345R

Steel · grade comparison

Steel 17Mn4 and Q345R are both steel grades, both pressure vessel steel. Q345R is the stronger of the two: yield strength 370 MPa (53.7 ksi) against 330 MPa (47.9 ksi) for 17Mn4, about 12% more; tensile strength follows at 550 MPa (79.8 ksi) vs 520 MPa (75.4 ksi).

Q345RChoose it when strength drives the design.

17Mn4 vs Q345R: properties

17Mn4Q345R

Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Elastic (Young's) Modulus

210 GPa30.5 Msi
206 GPa29.9 Msi

Shear Modulus

81 GPa11.7 Msi
79 GPa11.5 Msi

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

520 MPa75.4 ksi
550 MPa79.8 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

330 MPa47.9 ksi
370 MPa53.7 ksi

Elongation at Break

22%
24%

Reduction in Area

48%
50%

Compressive Strength

330 MPa47.9 ksi
370 MPa53.7 ksi

Shear Strength

335 MPa48.6 ksi
330 MPa47.9 ksi

Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit)

235 MPa34.1 ksi
240 MPa34.8 ksi

Fracture Toughness (K_IC)

110 MPa·√m100 ksi·√in
100 MPa·√m91 ksi·√in

Charpy V-Notch Impact (RT)

45 J33.2 ft·lbf
90 J66.4 ft·lbf

Hardness, Brinell

155 HB
160 HB

Hardness, Rockwell B

82 HRB
84 HRB

Hardness, Vickers

163 HV
168 HV

Same in both: Bulk Modulus 160 GPa23.2 Msi · Poisson's Ratio 0.29

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Melting Point (Solidus)

1,450°C2,642 °F
1,440°C2,624 °F

Same in both: Density 7.85 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³ · Liquidus Temperature 1,510°C2,750 °F

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Specific Heat Capacity

460 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F
480 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F

Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C)

12 µm/m·K6.7 µin/in·°F
11.8 µm/m·K6.6 µin/in·°F

Same in both: Thermal Conductivity 48 W/m·K27.7 BTU/hr·ft·°F · Latent Heat of Fusion 270 J/g116 BTU/lb · Max Service Temperature (continuous) 400°C752 °F · Min Service Temperature -20°C-4 °F

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Electrical Conductivity

9 % IACS
8.6 % IACS

Electrical Resistivity

1.9×10⁻⁷ Ω·m7.48 µΩ·in
2×10⁻⁷ Ω·m7.87 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Same in both: Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE) -0.62 V · Corrosion Resistance 12 / 100

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability

58 / 100
62 / 100

Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %)

62%
65%

Formability (cold)

65 / 100
70 / 100

Castability

—
45 / 100

Same in both: Weldability 85 / 100 · Brazeability / Solderability 60 / 100 · Polishability 45 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Embodied Carbon (primary production)

2 kg CO₂/kg
2.1 kg CO₂/kg

Embodied Water

45 L/kg5.4 gal/lb
35 L/kg4.2 gal/lb

Typical Recycled Content

30%
22%

Same in both: Embodied Energy (primary production) 25 MJ/kg10,748 BTU/lb

Common Calculations

Ratios derived from the values above.

Specific Strength (UTS / density)

66 kN·m/kg
70 kN·m/kg

Specific Stiffness (E / density)

26.8 MN·m/kg
26.2 MN·m/kg

Modulus of Resilience

259 kJ/m³
332 kJ/m³

Thermal Diffusivity

13.3 mm²/s
12.7 mm²/s

Thermal Shock Resistance Index

10
11

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every steel grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

2005001,0002,0007.588.5Density (g/cm³)Yield strength (MPa) — log scale17Mn4Q345R

Manufacturing and finishing

Capability17Mn4Q345R
Default conditionHRHR
Relative cost$$ Standard$$ Standard
Min. machined wall0.8 mm0.8 mm
Best machined surfaceRa 1.6 µmRa 1.6 µm

Both are offered for CNC machining and Sheet metal. Both take the same 38 finishes: AlCrN, AlTiN, Black Oxide, CVD Al2O3, CVD TiCN, CVD TiN, Cerakote, Chrome Plating, Copper Plating, CrN, DLC, E-Coating and 26 more.

17Mn4 vs Q345R — frequently asked

Is Q345R stronger than 17Mn4?

Yes. Q345R has a typical yield strength of 370 MPa (53.7 ksi) against 330 MPa (47.9 ksi) for 17Mn4 — about 12% more. Tensile strength is 550 MPa (79.8 ksi) vs 520 MPa (75.4 ksi).

Which is cheaper, 17Mn4 or Q345R?

Both sit in the same relative cost tier ($$, standard); the part price will be decided by machining time, tolerance and quantity rather than by the material.

When should I choose 17Mn4 over Q345R?

Pick Q345R when strength drives the design.

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Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in 17Mn4 and Q345R side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.