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Steel 4150 vs 8660

Steel · grade comparison

Steel 4150 and 8660 are both steel grades, both high strength steel. 8660 is the stronger of the two: yield strength 585 MPa (84.8 ksi) against 520 MPa (75.4 ksi) for 4150, about 13% more; tensile strength follows at 965 MPa (140 ksi) vs 860 MPa (125 ksi). In exchange, 4150 is the more ductile: elongation 16% versus 13% for 8660, and 8660 is harder (285 HB vs 235 HB). On the shop floor, 8660 sits in a lower cost tier (standard, $$) than 4150 (premium, $$$).

4150Choose it when the part is bent, formed or impact-loaded.

8660Choose it when strength drives the design, or when cost is the deciding factor.

4150 vs 8660: properties

41508660

Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

860 MPa125 ksi
965 MPa140 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

520 MPa75.4 ksi
585 MPa84.8 ksi

Elongation at Break

16%
13%

Reduction in Area

40%
30%

Shear Strength

560 MPa81.2 ksi
620 MPa89.9 ksi

Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit)

390 MPa56.6 ksi
430 MPa62.4 ksi

Charpy V-Notch Impact (RT)

25 J18.4 ft·lbf
20 J14.8 ft·lbf

Hardness, Brinell

235 HB
285 HB

Hardness, Rockwell C

21 HRC
29 HRC

Hardness, Vickers

245 HV
300 HV

Compressive Strength

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585 MPa84.8 ksi

Fracture Toughness (K_IC)

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55 MPa·√m50.1 ksi·√in

Same in both: Elastic (Young's) Modulus 205 GPa29.7 Msi · Shear Modulus 80 GPa11.6 Msi · Bulk Modulus 160 GPa23.2 Msi · Poisson's Ratio 0.29

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Melting Point (Solidus)

1,416°C2,581 °F
1,415°C2,579 °F

Liquidus Temperature

1,490°C2,714 °F
1,480°C2,696 °F

Same in both: Density 7.85 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Thermal Conductivity

42.6 W/m·K24.6 BTU/hr·ft·°F
44 W/m·K25.4 BTU/hr·ft·°F

Specific Heat Capacity

473 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F
475 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F

Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C)

12.3 µm/m·K6.8 µin/in·°F
11.7 µm/m·K6.5 µin/in·°F

Latent Heat of Fusion

250 J/g107 BTU/lb
270 J/g116 BTU/lb

Min Service Temperature

-40°C-40 °F
-30°C-22 °F

Same in both: Max Service Temperature (continuous) 400°C752 °F

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Electrical Conductivity

7.8 % IACS
7.2 % IACS

Electrical Resistivity

2.2×10⁻⁷ Ω·m8.66 µΩ·in
2.4×10⁻⁷ Ω·m9.45 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Corrosion Resistance

12 / 100
11 / 100

Same in both: Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE) -0.6 V

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability

45 / 100
40 / 100

Weldability

25 / 100
20 / 100

Castability

35 / 100
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Brazeability / Solderability

55 / 100
—

Polishability

60 / 100
65 / 100

Same in both: Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %) 50% · Formability (cold) 25 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Embodied Energy (primary production)

31 MJ/kg13,328 BTU/lb
30 MJ/kg12,898 BTU/lb

Embodied Carbon (primary production)

2.3 kg CO₂/kg
2.2 kg CO₂/kg

Embodied Water

60 L/kg7.2 gal/lb
45 L/kg5.4 gal/lb

Same in both: Typical Recycled Content 30%

Common Calculations

Ratios derived from the values above.

Specific Strength (UTS / density)

110 kN·m/kg
123 kN·m/kg

Modulus of Resilience

660 kJ/m³
835 kJ/m³

Thermal Diffusivity

11.5 mm²/s
11.8 mm²/s

Thermal Shock Resistance Index

15
18

Same in both: Specific Stiffness (E / density) 26.1 MN·m/kg

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every steel grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

2005001,0002,0007.588.5Density (g/cm³)Yield strength (MPa) — log scale41508660

Manufacturing and finishing

Capability41508660
Default conditionHRHR
Relative cost$$$ Premium$$ Standard
Min. machined wall0.8 mm0.8 mm
Best machined surfaceRa 1.6 µmRa 1.6 µm

Both are offered for CNC machining and Sheet metal. Both take the same 38 finishes: AlCrN, AlTiN, Black Oxide, CVD Al2O3, CVD TiCN, CVD TiN, Cerakote, Chrome Plating, Copper Plating, CrN, DLC, E-Coating and 26 more.

4150 vs 8660 — frequently asked

Is 8660 stronger than 4150?

Yes. 8660 has a typical yield strength of 585 MPa (84.8 ksi) against 520 MPa (75.4 ksi) for 4150 — about 13% more. Tensile strength is 965 MPa (140 ksi) vs 860 MPa (125 ksi).

Which is cheaper, 4150 or 8660?

8660 is the lower-cost material: it sits in the standard tier ($$) while 4150 is premium ($$$). Part price depends far more on geometry, tolerance and quantity than on raw stock — upload a CAD file for a live quote.

Which is easier to machine, 4150 or 8660?

4150, by a small margin. Both rate fair for machinability — 45/100 against 40/100 for 8660; for welding the order is 4150 first (poor, 25/100) then 8660 (poor, 20/100).

Ready to make it?

Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in 4150 and 8660 side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.