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Stainless Steel ER308Si vs ER409

Stainless Steel · grade comparison

Stainless Steel ER308Si and ER409 are both stainless steel grades. ER308Si is the stronger of the two: yield strength 400 MPa (58 ksi) against 320 MPa (46.4 ksi) for ER409, about 25% more; tensile strength follows at 600 MPa (87 ksi) vs 470 MPa (68.2 ksi). ER308Si is the more ductile: elongation 38% versus 22% for ER409, and ER308Si is harder (175 HB vs 165 HB). ER409 is lighter (7.7 g/cm³ vs 7.95 g/cm³ for ER308Si) and ER308Si runs hotter in service (760°C vs 675°C continuous). On the shop floor, ER409 machines more easily (good vs fair) and ER308Si welds better (excellent vs very good).

ER308SiChoose it when strength drives the design, or when the part is bent, formed or impact-loaded.

ER409Choose it when weight is the constraint, or when the part is machined in volume.

ER308Si vs ER409: properties

ER308SiER409

Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Elastic (Young's) Modulus

195 GPa28.3 Msi
200 GPa29 Msi

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

600 MPa87 ksi
470 MPa68.2 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

400 MPa58 ksi
320 MPa46.4 ksi

Elongation at Break

38%
22%

Compressive Strength

400 MPa58 ksi
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Shear Strength

400 MPa58 ksi
300 MPa43.5 ksi

Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit)

240 MPa34.8 ksi
215 MPa31.2 ksi

Fracture Toughness (K_IC)

140 MPa·√m127 ksi·√in
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Charpy V-Notch Impact (RT)

90 J66.4 ft·lbf
25 J18.4 ft·lbf

Hardness, Brinell

175 HB
165 HB

Hardness, Rockwell B

88 HRB
85 HRB

Hardness, Vickers

185 HV
175 HV

Same in both: Shear Modulus 77 GPa11.2 Msi · Bulk Modulus 160 GPa23.2 Msi · Poisson's Ratio 0.29 · Reduction in Area 55%

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Density

7.95 g/cm³0.29 lb/in³
7.7 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³

Melting Point (Solidus)

1,400°C2,552 °F
1,480°C2,696 °F

Liquidus Temperature

1,450°C2,642 °F
1,530°C2,786 °F

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Thermal Conductivity

15 W/m·K8.7 BTU/hr·ft·°F
24.9 W/m·K14.4 BTU/hr·ft·°F

Specific Heat Capacity

500 J/kg·K0.12 BTU/lb·°F
460 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F

Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C)

16.5 µm/m·K9.2 µin/in·°F
11.7 µm/m·K6.5 µin/in·°F

Max Service Temperature (continuous)

760°C1,400 °F
675°C1,247 °F

Min Service Temperature

-196°C-321 °F
-20°C-4 °F

Same in both: Latent Heat of Fusion 270 J/g116 BTU/lb

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Electrical Conductivity

2.4 % IACS
2.9 % IACS

Electrical Resistivity

7.2×10⁻⁷ Ω·m28.3 µΩ·in
6×10⁻⁷ Ω·m23.6 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE)

-0.08 V
-0.3 V

Corrosion Resistance

68 / 100
45 / 100

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability

40 / 100
58 / 100

Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %)

45%
60%

Weldability

95 / 100
75 / 100

Formability (cold)

60 / 100
55 / 100

Polishability

70 / 100
55 / 100

Same in both: Brazeability / Solderability 60 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Embodied Energy (primary production)

55 MJ/kg23,646 BTU/lb
45 MJ/kg19,347 BTU/lb

Embodied Carbon (primary production)

5.5 kg CO₂/kg
3.4 kg CO₂/kg

Embodied Water

200 L/kg24 gal/lb
110 L/kg13.2 gal/lb

Typical Recycled Content

55%
60%

Common Calculations

Ratios derived from the values above.

Specific Strength (UTS / density)

75 kN·m/kg
61 kN·m/kg

Specific Stiffness (E / density)

24.5 MN·m/kg
26 MN·m/kg

Modulus of Resilience

410 kJ/m³
256 kJ/m³

Thermal Diffusivity

3.8 mm²/s
7 mm²/s

Thermal Shock Resistance Index

3
5

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every stainless steel grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

3005007001,0001,5002,0007.27.47.67.888.2Density (g/cm³)Yield strength (MPa) — log scaleER308SiER409

Manufacturing and finishing

CapabilityER308SiER409
Default condition——
Relative cost$$$ Premium$$$ Premium
Min. machined wall——
Best machined surface——

Both take the same 7 finishes: Electroless Nickel (EN), Epoxy Coating, Gold Plating, Hard Chrome Plating, Pickling, Plasma Spray, Silver Plating.

ER308Si vs ER409 — frequently asked

Is ER308Si stronger than ER409?

Yes. ER308Si has a typical yield strength of 400 MPa (58 ksi) against 320 MPa (46.4 ksi) for ER409 — about 25% more. Tensile strength is 600 MPa (87 ksi) vs 470 MPa (68.2 ksi).

Which is cheaper, ER308Si or ER409?

Both sit in the same relative cost tier ($$$, premium); the part price will be decided by machining time, tolerance and quantity rather than by the material.

Which is easier to machine, ER308Si or ER409?

ER409. Its machinability rates good (58/100) against fair (40/100) for ER308Si; for welding the order is ER308Si first (excellent, 95/100) then ER409 (very good, 75/100).

Ready to make it?

Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in ER308Si and ER409 side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.