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Steel 4150 vs 4817

Steel · grade comparison

Steel 4150 and 4817 are both steel grades. 4150 is the stronger of the two: yield strength 520 MPa (75.4 ksi) against 450 MPa (65.3 ksi) for 4817, about 16% more; tensile strength follows at 860 MPa (125 ksi) vs 690 MPa (100 ksi). In exchange, 4817 is the more ductile: elongation 24% versus 16% for 4150, and 4150 is harder (235 HB vs 195 HB). 4150 runs hotter in service (400°C vs 200°C continuous) and 4150 conducts heat better (42.6 W/m·K vs 33 W/m·K). On the shop floor, 4817 welds better (fair vs poor) and 4817 sits in a lower cost tier (standard, $$) than 4150 (premium, $$$).

4150Choose it when strength drives the design, or when the part sees heat.

4817Choose it when the part is bent, formed or impact-loaded, or when it will be welded.

4150 vs 4817: properties

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Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

860 MPa125 ksi
690 MPa100 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

520 MPa75.4 ksi
450 MPa65.3 ksi

Elongation at Break

16%
24%

Reduction in Area

40%
55%

Shear Strength

560 MPa81.2 ksi
450 MPa65.3 ksi

Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit)

390 MPa56.6 ksi
330 MPa47.9 ksi

Charpy V-Notch Impact (RT)

25 J18.4 ft·lbf
90 J66.4 ft·lbf

Hardness, Brinell

235 HB
195 HB

Hardness, Rockwell C

21 HRC
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Hardness, Vickers

245 HV
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Fracture Toughness (K_IC)

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85 MPa·√m77.4 ksi·√in

Hardness, Rockwell B

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92 HRB

Same in both: Elastic (Young's) Modulus 205 GPa29.7 Msi · Shear Modulus 80 GPa11.6 Msi · Bulk Modulus 160 GPa23.2 Msi · Poisson's Ratio 0.29

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Density

7.85 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³
7.83 g/cm³0.28 lb/in³

Melting Point (Solidus)

1,416°C2,581 °F
1,420°C2,588 °F

Liquidus Temperature

1,490°C2,714 °F
1,495°C2,723 °F

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Thermal Conductivity

42.6 W/m·K24.6 BTU/hr·ft·°F
33 W/m·K19.1 BTU/hr·ft·°F

Specific Heat Capacity

473 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F
470 J/kg·K0.11 BTU/lb·°F

Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C)

12.3 µm/m·K6.8 µin/in·°F
11.7 µm/m·K6.5 µin/in·°F

Latent Heat of Fusion

250 J/g107 BTU/lb
260 J/g112 BTU/lb

Max Service Temperature (continuous)

400°C752 °F
200°C392 °F

Min Service Temperature

-40°C-40 °F
-70°C-94 °F

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Electrical Conductivity

7.8 % IACS
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Electrical Resistivity

2.2×10⁻⁷ Ω·m8.66 µΩ·in
2.5×10⁻⁷ Ω·m9.84 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Corrosion Resistance

12 / 100
13 / 100

Same in both: Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE) -0.6 V

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %)

50%
55%

Weldability

25 / 100
35 / 100

Formability (cold)

25 / 100
45 / 100

Castability

35 / 100
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Polishability

60 / 100
65 / 100

Same in both: Machinability 45 / 100 · Brazeability / Solderability 55 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Embodied Energy (primary production)

31 MJ/kg13,328 BTU/lb
34 MJ/kg14,617 BTU/lb

Embodied Carbon (primary production)

2.3 kg CO₂/kg
2.5 kg CO₂/kg

Typical Recycled Content

30%
25%

Same in both: Embodied Water 60 L/kg7.2 gal/lb

Common Calculations

Ratios derived from the values above.

Specific Strength (UTS / density)

110 kN·m/kg
88 kN·m/kg

Specific Stiffness (E / density)

26.1 MN·m/kg
26.2 MN·m/kg

Modulus of Resilience

660 kJ/m³
494 kJ/m³

Thermal Diffusivity

11.5 mm²/s
9 mm²/s

Thermal Shock Resistance Index

15
9

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every steel grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

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Manufacturing and finishing

Capability41504817
CNC machiningYes—
Sheet metalYes—
Default conditionHR—
Relative cost$$$ Premium$$ Standard
Min. machined wall0.8 mm—
Best machined surfaceRa 1.6 µm—
AlCrNYes—
AlTiNYes—
Black OxideYes—
CVD Al2O3Yes—
CVD TiCNYes—
CVD TiNYes—
CerakoteYes—
Chrome PlatingYes—
CrNYes—
DLCYes—
E-CoatingYes—
HVOF CoatingYes—
Hot-Dip GalvanizingYes—
MoS2Yes—
Multilayer CVDYes—
Nickel PlatingYes—
PTFE CoatingYes—
PaintingYes—

They share 9 finishes: Copper Plating, Electroless Nickel (EN), Epoxy Coating, Gold Plating, Hard Chrome Plating, Manganese Phosphate, Plasma Spray, Silver Plating, Zinc Phosphate.

4150 vs 4817 — frequently asked

Is 4150 stronger than 4817?

Yes. 4150 has a typical yield strength of 520 MPa (75.4 ksi) against 450 MPa (65.3 ksi) for 4817 — about 16% more. Tensile strength is 860 MPa (125 ksi) vs 690 MPa (100 ksi).

Which is cheaper, 4150 or 4817?

4817 is the lower-cost material: it sits in the standard tier ($$) while 4150 is premium ($$$). Part price depends far more on geometry, tolerance and quantity than on raw stock — upload a CAD file for a live quote.

Which welds better, 4150 or 4817?

4817. Its weldability rates fair (35/100) against poor (25/100) for 4150.

Ready to make it?

Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in 4150 and 4817 side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.