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Precious Metal 800 Silver 1/4H vs 800 Silver-PH

Precious Metal · 800 Silver temper comparison

800 Silver 1/4H and 800 Silver-PH are two conditions of the same precious metal grade, 800 Silver: 1/4H (quarter hard) versus PH (pre-hardened). The chemistry is identical, so every difference below comes from the condition. 800 Silver-PH is the stronger of the two: yield strength 510 MPa (74 ksi) against 250 MPa (36.3 ksi) for 800 Silver 1/4H, about 104% more; tensile strength follows at 580 MPa (84.1 ksi) vs 350 MPa (50.8 ksi). In exchange, 800 Silver 1/4H is the more ductile: elongation 20% versus 4% for 800 Silver-PH, and 800 Silver-PH is harder (175 HB vs 100 HB). 800 Silver-PH runs hotter in service (250°C vs 200°C continuous). On the shop floor, 800 Silver-PH machines more easily (good vs fair) and 800 Silver 1/4H welds better (good vs fair).

800 Silver 1/4HChoose it when the part is bent, formed or impact-loaded, or when it will be welded.

800 Silver-PHChoose it when strength drives the design, or when the part sees heat.

800 Silver 1/4H vs 800 Silver-PH: properties

800 Silver 1/4H800 Silver-PH

Mechanical

Strength, stiffness, ductility and hardness at room temperature.

Elastic (Young's) Modulus

79 GPa11.5 Msi
80 GPa11.6 Msi

Tensile Strength (Ultimate)

350 MPa50.8 ksi
580 MPa84.1 ksi

Yield Strength (0.2% offset)

250 MPa36.3 ksi
510 MPa74 ksi

Elongation at Break

20%
4%

Reduction in Area

45%
12%

Shear Strength

230 MPa33.4 ksi
380 MPa55.1 ksi

Fatigue Strength (Endurance Limit)

150 MPa21.8 ksi
230 MPa33.4 ksi

Hardness, Brinell

100 HB
175 HB

Hardness, Vickers

105 HV
185 HV

Same in both: Shear Modulus 29 GPa4.2 Msi · Bulk Modulus 104 GPa15.1 Msi · Poisson's Ratio 0.37

Physical

Density and transition temperatures.

Same in both: Density 10.15 g/cm³0.37 lb/in³ · Melting Point (Solidus) 779°C1,434 °F · Liquidus Temperature 810°C1,490 °F

Thermal

How each material carries heat and how hot it can run.

Thermal Conductivity

315 W/m·K182 BTU/hr·ft·°F
345 W/m·K199 BTU/hr·ft·°F

Max Service Temperature (continuous)

200°C392 °F
250°C482 °F

Same in both: Specific Heat Capacity 262 J/kg·K0.06 BTU/lb·°F · Thermal Expansion (CTE, 20–100 °C) 18.9 µm/m·K10.5 µin/in·°F · Latent Heat of Fusion 125 J/g53.7 BTU/lb · Min Service Temperature -200°C-328 °F

Electrical

Conductivity and insulation.

Electrical Conductivity

77 % IACS
85 % IACS

Electrical Resistivity

2.24×10⁻⁸ Ω·m0.882 µΩ·in
2.03×10⁻⁸ Ω·m0.799 µΩ·in

Chemical & Environmental

Corrosion and environmental resistance (0–100 scores).

Corrosion Resistance

60 / 100
62 / 100

Same in both: Galvanic Potential (seawater, vs SCE) -0.05 V

Manufacturability

FabDigit workshop ratings (0–100 scores) — how each material behaves on the machine.

Machinability

52 / 100
65 / 100

Machinability Rating (AISI 1212 = 100 %)

52%
65%

Weldability

65 / 100
45 / 100

Formability (cold)

75 / 100
20 / 100

Same in both: Castability 85 / 100 · Brazeability / Solderability 90 / 100 · Polishability 95 / 100

Sustainability

Primary-production footprint per kilogram.

Same in both: Embodied Energy (primary production) 1,200 MJ/kg515,908 BTU/lb · Embodied Carbon (primary production) 90 kg CO₂/kg · Embodied Water 260 L/kg31.2 gal/lb · Typical Recycled Content 50%

Strength versus weight

Yield strength against density for every precious metal grade in the FabDigit library; the compared grades are highlighted. Up and left is stronger for its weight.

50100200500101520Density (g/cm³)Yield strength (MPa) — log scale800 Silver

800 Silver 1/4H vs 800 Silver-PH — frequently asked

Is 800 Silver-PH stronger than 800 Silver 1/4H?

Yes. 800 Silver-PH has a typical yield strength of 510 MPa (74 ksi) against 250 MPa (36.3 ksi) for 800 Silver 1/4H — about 104% more. Tensile strength is 580 MPa (84.1 ksi) vs 350 MPa (50.8 ksi).

Which condition does FabDigit quote by default, 1/4H or PH?

Annealed is the default 800 Silver condition in the FabDigit quote flow (neither 1/4H nor PH). The other condition is available on request or by drawing note — specify it in the material field or the part notes and the quote is priced for it.

Which is easier to machine, 800 Silver 1/4H or 800 Silver-PH?

800 Silver-PH. Its machinability rates good (65/100) against fair (52/100) for 800 Silver 1/4H; for welding the order is 800 Silver 1/4H first (good, 65/100) then 800 Silver-PH (fair, 45/100).

Ready to make it?

Upload a CAD file and FabDigit prices the part in 800 Silver 1/4H and 800 Silver-PH side by side — material, machining time, tolerance and finish in one quote. Certified material data ships with the order on request.

Typical handbook values for the conditions named above, normalised for comparison. Hardness on non-Brinell scales is converted approximately for charting only. Request certified data with your order for design-critical properties.